Why average temperature? – Flair

Bob Coyle

When Flair is controlling the set point, why does it use the average home temperature and average home set point to determine the smart thermostat set point? It would seem that this would result in most rooms never achieving their local set point goals.

Instead, why does it not at least have the option to use the lowest set point (for cooling mode) and the highest set point (for heating mode). In this way, rooms would simply close their vents when their set point was reached, and the system would stop heating/cooling when the highest/lowest temperature was achieved.

Something like this:

Flair sets thermostat set point to 65 since Room C has the lowest set point.

Cooling begins.

Room A closes its vents when it reaches 74 degrees.

Cooling continues, Room B closes its vents at 69 degrees.

Cooling continues, Room C reaches 65, Flair ends the call for cooling, system stops.

If this is not an option, how can I achieve something similar? If I set rooms A & B to inactive so that Room C can achieve its set point, Rooms A & B will remain at 78 degrees and never be cooled.

One last question: when Flair sets a smart thermostat to a temperature, does heating/cooling stop when the thermostat reaches that temperature or when the average temperature (as calculated by Flair) is achieved?

Thanks for your help!

Comments

Totally agree, average doesn't work when rooms are set too far apart. Flair should make this configurable.

I also agree, now that I have Flair vents in most rooms of my house I would like for it to work more like a zoned system, where each room with a sensor or puck can independently call for heating or cooling if it's not at its setpoint.

We have been having some internal conversations around this for a while, namely an option to use an average or catering to the 'worst' room (within reason). There are lots of different strategies and in some cases, we have seen homes that would work better with one vs the other but at a minimum, some optionality seems warranted. ...

Thanks, Dan, that would be great. I haven't actually received my equipment yet (10 vents and three pucks) since the pucks are backordered but I would be happy to help out with testing, etc. once I receive everything. I expect to be ordering more vents once I get those all set up.

There are other ways to implement this as I am sure you have discussed, such as being able to specify a room as a Priority in scheduling or from the puck without making other rooms inactive. Basically, it would be saying I want the temperature in that room to be weighted more heavily (or even 100%) in the average calculation.

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Totally need this!!! Reach out to me. I have my whole house 100% done. Every room has a Flair Vent and Puck. Not one dumb vent.

Total 16 pucks and 24 vents. Ecobee 4 main thermostat.

Currently as I type this, this is the temp differences: ...

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Agree, if Flair wants to be the system in control, it needs to handle that control better. ...

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Hi Matt, ...

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I'm specifically interested in the answer to the last part of Bob's initial question, which I don't think was answered yet: ...

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With this temperature averaging thing these flair vents just don't do what I want. I have to open the app every 20 minutes or so to check the room temperatures ...

My flair system with the new comfort+ feature is cycling my AC unit on/off.

Final Thoughts
It seems the majority of users are seeking more control over individual room temperatures and a clearer understanding of how the Flair system integrates with existing smart thermostats.

It will be interesting to see how future updates from Flair will address these concerns.