Integrating with Ecobee – Flair

Ben Tusa

Is there any detailed information about how the integration between Flair and Ecobee function? Seems that you can/should basically either let Ecobee drive everything or let Flair. I'm trying to understand the pros/cons to see how those behaviors would best fit our home.

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Chris McIntyre

I am an ecobee user and have 9 Flair vents. At this point the system does a good job of balancing room temperatures. I have ecobee sensors in each room, so I only have one puck centrally located in the house. I set it to keep the ecobee in control of the temperature, and it works well. I use a schedule to even keep a couple of rooms a degree cooler than usual at certain times of the day. At this point I don’t believe Flair takes room occupancy from the ecobee into account, just temperature.

Flair Customer Support

I wanted to add a quick update here...

Flair can use the occupancy readings from remote sensors from ecobee or Honeywell. To enable it, in the Flair app, go to Home Settings->System Settings and enable "Remote Sensor Occupancy".

Flair's Set Point Controller setting determines what "drives everything". Set to "Thermostat" and Flair reads set points and schedules from your ecobee. Set to "Flair App" and Flair controls the set point. If you let Flair control everything and are using a schedule, make sure your schedule is on Flair, not your thermostat (or it will conflict).

All the best,

Finn

Chris McIntyre

I would do the opposite. With the ecobee schedules you don’t really need to use flair schedules. The only time I have ever used them is if I wanted to keep one room a degree or so different from the set point. You don’t want them fighting with each other. Right now I don’t have any flair schedules at all.

Flair Customer Support

Hi Cullen,

A Flair schedule may conflict with an ecobee schedule and we recommend having one or the other.

Additionally, a Flair schedule will take priority over any changes made by the Eco+ feature, so it makes sense to remove the Flair schedule as Chris McIntyre suggests.

All the best,

Finn

Hadi Moosavi

Hello,

I have an ecobee thermostat which I have been able to use with Flair vents and pucks and also Ecobee room sensors. Everything seems to be working well except what I am going to describe below.

At some points in the day, although there is no need to turn on the furnace, the furnace turns on and the temperature in the living room reaches around 22. Sometimes this happen even when all rooms are set to "away".

The latest instance was this morning: Here is what I have:

  1. living room: ecobee thermostat, ecobee motion sensor, two Flair vents

  2. bedroom1: ecobee motion sensor, Flair puck (gateway), Flair vent

  3. bedroom2: ecobee motion sensor, Flair puck (sensor), Flair vent

Below is my schedule:

When I woke up around 8 in the morning, I felt warmer than usual so I checked the statistics.

As you can see right at 6:00 am when the schedule ends, the furnace has turned on and brought up the temperature to around 22 without any reason. my general set point is 18.5.

Some times I have noticed that the furnace is on without opening any of the smart vents and again this was when no rooms needed heating.

Could anyone help with this? I am almost sure that all my Flair and Ecobee settings are fine but let me know if have a specific one to check.

Thank you

Tom Latimer

I just purchased a Flair vent and have an ecobee thermostat with a sensor in the room where I'm going to put the vent. Do I have to have the puck?

The reason I purchased this is because I understood it would connect directly to the ecobee.

Thanks

Matt

You need at least 1 puck.

Jordan Rost

How do I set flair set point to controller so ecobee sensors control the furnace and flair controls the vents?

Matt

Home Settings --> System Setting --> Set point Controller

Set that to Thermostat instead of Flair App.

That will tell Flair that it should not adjust and try to control the Ecobee. The Ecobee doesn’t know about Flair and will just work on its own. The Flair will still control vents and open/close them based on the room temperature where the vent is and the Flair schedule. However, Flair will not be able to request heat/cooling.

Think about the implications as you create the schedules. I use it this way all the time. But, think through if you have an Ecobee sensor in a room with Flair vents and the Ecobee is trying to get that sensor to say 80 based on the Ecobee schedule and the Flair vent is set to close at 70 based on the Flair schedule. The Ecobee would keep running to send heat, but the closed vent would prevent it from warming up (or slow it way down). This works great in rooms without an Ecobee sensor active in a schedule and where the room always gets to the target faster than where the Ecobee is trying to adjust.